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>>82403▶ No.84368>>84370
>>84363you've demonstrated a propensity for obnoxious elitism in the past, so you'll have to forgive me for being a little skeptical
▶ No.84369>>84371
>>84367>aesthetics fandom wikidon't fall for this one, megidozens. I believe in you
▶ No.84370>>84379
>>84368I've also displayed a hatred of elitism over elitism yet I do have my own form of meta-elitism.
"Gatekeeping is fine, hatedoms are retarded." Gatekeeping shouldn't be some fucking hierophany, just say you don't consider something a part of a genre or you think something is cashing in. Purity tests only need to be taken once.
▶ No.84371>>84384
>>84369THE AESTHETICIANS ARE ATTACKING. ROUND UP THE THREE GIRL TYPES*
GAMER'S NOTICE: USE HORSE GIRLS EARLY AND OFTEN. WHEN THEY BECOME PALADINS, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY OP BECAUSE OF HOW VALUABLE THE MOVEMENT STAT IS.
▶ No.84373>>84379
>>84372You will receive a diarrhea.
▶ No.84374>>84376>>84379
>>84351feigning stupidity = funny
▶ No.84375>>84377>>84378
I know this is never going to happen but it'd be funny if Metalocalypse got a sequel about a younger band that did black metal that was inspired by Dethklok that wanted to take their stuff further. The main joke being that despite their attempts to be even edgier and more transgressive (obligatory church-burning) and their music is slightly more extreme, they don't have any of the surrounding context of Metalocalypse's surrealist high stakes so their extra hard LARPing is contrasted with complete mudanity.
I know Adult Swim is basically dead in the water but it's nice to have these thoughts.
▶ No.84376
>>84374It's what
wwomen do.
▶ No.84377>>84378
>>84375*Because Metalocalypse is mostly about death metal and death metallisms
I forgor to add.
▶ No.84378>>84381
>>84375>>84377Working title would be "Satanic" Metalocalypse but I know I need more adjectives in there to properly capture the joke I'm aiming for.
▶ No.84379>>84382>>84385
>>84373no!
one tally for the MoM poop board
>>84370I see. until the next battle!
>>84374it's a classic bit.
▶ No.84380
>>84365>>84366>Named GREEN>Character design is literally purple and pink.Why the fuck did Devil Survivor beat me to a B&S joke????
▶ No.84381>>84383
>>84378MetalocalypseArisen
▶ No.84382
>>84379>one tally for the MoM poop boardDon't call it that.
▶ No.84383
>>84381Satanic Metalocalypse: Arisen Antichrist's Agony.
▶ No.84384
>>84371make sure you have oceangirls ready by midgame, when naval combat is most relevant. by lategame you'll want to respec into other classes, save for a few nuclear submarinas
▶ No.84385>>84386
>>84379>I see. until the next battle!Huh?
▶ No.84386>>84388
>>84385I meant that I presume we will continue to have friendly clashes about gatekeeping and elitism :^p
▶ No.84388>>84389
>>84386Friendly, right.
▶ No.84390>>84392
>>84389As one of my therapists once said, "Feeling numb or dead inside is still a feeling!"
ポジティブに考えましょう！
▶ No.84392>>84393
>>84390you don't think we can have playful disagreements?
▶ No.84393>>84394
>>84392We don't seem to have the same definition but whatever.
▶ No.84394>>84396
>>84393>same definitionof what?
▶ No.84395>>84397
wwhy is /hot/ not loading
Site shit itself.
▶ No.84396>>84400
>>84394Playful disagreement.
▶ No.84398>>84400
>>84397My Internet is bad because my state doesn't build the infrastructure for parts of the state, it just builds it for the state taken as a whole.
That is a deliberately retarded way of saying Texas' standards of building literally anything operate under the assumption that you live in the Southeast of it. Mild winds? Sorry, your Internet is fucked. Temperatures below 60? Lol, we don't build our houses with insulation even though this happens on a yearly basis.
▶ No.84399>>84401
The "goth question" is infuriating me once again. I truly don't think I'll ever get over this shit.
▶ No.84400>>84402
>>84396well, I hope I haven't ever upset you too much
>>84398from what I've heard, the energy situation can also be quite dire there. sorry you have to deal with it nonny
▶ No.84401
>>84399I wish porn-hating fart fetish pawn man made a comic about this because now I feel like the truth will never be revealed or it'll take a stupidly long time for the realization to dawn on the retarded masses that the Internet's perception of goth culture has been unbelievably warped by pornrot.
▶ No.84402>>84403>>84435
>>84400>well, I hope I haven't ever upset you too muchIt's the latter that you should be worried about, was the point.
>from what I've heard, the energy situation can also be quite dire there.Yes, same thing applies with "mild winds."
Is this image supposed to be a "red pill™"? I generally think it's just ineptitude instead of malpractice. At least in the sense of "This isn't enough of a problem to fix so let's just let it continue forever" instead of a clever scheme for monopolization.
▶ No.84403
>>84402Also, Texas is infamous for its ENDLESS (POORLY DONE) ROADWORK which is much the same situation.
I think the deregulation thing here is a spook. Governments, especially local ones, play this funny trick all the time because of "growth" and "demographics" and all that shit. Plus endless slave labor helps rationalize it.
▶ No.84404>>84405
>>84271JRPGs largely excel at presentation.
▶ No.84411
>>84410Maybe I should take all of his translated Tweets and feed them into Ren Lalonde so she can finally be a funny character.
Now, if you'd be so kind as to compile them…
▶ No.84412>>84413
>>84405Judging them for having (or not) having light novel tier "character arcs" is fuggy
▶ No.84413
>>84412"Shin Megami Tensei, in particular, would benefit from having strongly written character arcs because an implicit part of the games' premise(s- really just one because it's FORMULAIC) indicates some moral or mental decay of the characters."
▶ No.84414>>84421>>84430>>84435
Also, I have always argued that JRPGs are more about their characters than their stories (which is its own discussion) so SMT having really strong characters with the BONE STORIES it usually tells would be fine but, uh, it doesn't. It's all presentation.
ALL STYLE, NO SUBSTANCE. FUCK YEAH, PUNK ROCK!!!!!!! FVCKING ABRAHAMISM…. VGH RETVRN TO SHINTO, LIKE .73% OF OUR POPULATION IS CHRISTIAN FOR IZINAGI'S FUCKING SAKE.
▶ No.84416>>84418>>84435
What do we call this phenomenon of COOL JAPAN pretending to be "punk rock" (by appealing to hyper-conservative sensibilities in their own culture) which comes off to Westerners as something actually subversive because of the discrepancies between each culture's predominant values and demographics? Because it's cancer, it's ruined companies and franchises, and I hate it.
▶ No.84417>>84418
OOOOOOOOO MY NATIONARU DEFENSEU DIVINITIES
SO PUNKUH ROCKU
STOP RIKING MY TWEETS
▶ No.84418>>84419>>84435
>>84416>>84417This is entering strawman territory
▶ No.84419>>84423
>>84418Going to explain how?
▶ No.84421>>84427
>>84414Somewhat, they're about (Your) adventure. You seem hung up on the religious allegory of SMT when it's really just anti-americanism with yes, paint (
BIZNASTY)
▶ No.84422>>84424
>>84420Different account, safe. unless you mean the yuriness
▶ No.84423>>84427>>84450
>>84419what if
just imagine
they arent obsessed with "punk rock" and thats you sperging out
▶ No.84424
>>84422> the yurinessAsuka x Rei is the blackest of brimstone.
▶ No.84425>>84427
I still hold megaten is anti-jew and pro-christian
▶ No.84426>>84427>>84430
also the government enslaving the local deities isnt the best example of "retvrn to shinto", probably
the whole thing is mostly just an extension of the neutral ethos of "maintain vague balance and leave things they way they are," and not really a declaration of superiority, since that is shown to fail in the end pretty much always
▶ No.84427>>84450
>>84421>You seem hung up on the religious allegory of SMT Yes, sorry I want something novel and interesting that appeals to my interests and fits what every likes to pretend the series is about.
>when it's really just anti-americanism with yes, paint (BIZNASTY)Except that's fucking boring even if you agree with it, you stupid
homosexual.
Chuddies once again showing they're no better than fucking
TRICKSTER retards and will swallow shit if it has right!think.
>>84423>just imagine>they arent obsessed with "punk rock""Yeah, okay, bwo."
>>84425I think you can divide that up into a timeline. Really, I can't say for sure, since I've never read it, but I can't help but feel like the game series has become a bastardization of the novels.
>>84426>the government enslaving the local deities They aren't that mad about it. Nobody cares.
Great game btw, that SMT4.
▶ No.84428>>84430
and like you can go "ERM BUT THE HISTORY OF CHRISTIANITY IN JAPAN THO???" but I think they just thought yhvh and lucifer were cool and did not give a fuck about any of that
▶ No.84429>>84430
We would know their true intentions if they did a spinoff not set in Japan but the only time they did that we got something even more vague
▶ No.84430>>84432
>>84428> think they just thought yhvh and lucifer were cool and did not give a fuck about any of that>>84414>ALL STYLE, NO SUBSTANCE. FUCK YEAH, PUNK ROCK!!!!!!! It all ties together into a neat little circle. Punk rock = "fuck substance" = "muh fake edgy status quo"
>>84426>the whole thing is mostly just an extension of the neutral ethos of "maintain vague balance and leave things they way they are," Which is of course a very Shinto-esque position in itself but that's somewhat countered when you see so many Megaten games where the eastern Gods get haughty and assert their superiority. Oh, wait.
>>84429HUMANITY™ (THIS IS awkwaaard BY THE WAY BECAUSE IT'S SAYING THE SAME THING AS THE OTHER GAMES BUT NOW IT'S VAGUELY GLOBALIST? SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE DESPITE THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FORMAT. PLEASE TAKE MY OPINIONS ON THIS SERIES SERIOUSLY.)
▶ No.84431
If SMT taught me anything, it's "Fuck MEX."
▶ No.84432>>84434
>>84430>when you see so many Megaten games where the eastern Gods get haughty and assert their superiority. Oh, wait.you do, but not being zettaisin nerfs them so they dont get to be final boss tier…
▶ No.84433>>84434>>84441
Maybe more asians should have been monotheistic
▶ No.84434>>84441
>>84432Suck my dick.
>>84433This is a statement where I could say a lot of things to it but every Megaten discussion on here goes to fucking waste, so why bother.
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>>84402>It's the latter that you should be worried about, was the point.the latter? but I didn't present two options
>Is this image supposed to be a "red pill™"?eh, I suppose, but not in a SHOVING IT IN YOUR FACE way. I don't think it's "malpractice" in the sense that I don't think a bunch of energy company suits got into room and decided "we're gonna let these people die for surge pricing cash" years in advance. but it doesn't really matter, because the only thing that an unregulated monopoly has to do is make money - their incompetence is not only allowed, but actively encouraged by way of their incentives.
>>84414>It's all presentation.danganronpa…
>>84418>>84416I don't really see where punk rock enters into it, but there is a huge thing where a lot of people OMG COOL JAPANing over shit haven't developed any ability to recognize and challenge the cliche conservative being presented to them, and so instead it appears simultaneously innocently utopian and magical while also being "so different and unique!" in its contrast to the domestic ideological counterparts they long grew cynical towards
▶ No.84436
Isn't like all of 5 random gods going "UGGGGHHHHH FUCK YHVH IM BETTER IM GONNA REPLACE HIM ONCE I HAVE MY WAY"
▶ No.84437
>>84435>got into roomgot into a* room
▶ No.84438
>>84435>cliche conservativecliche conservative values*
ugh, sorry. I need to proofread more. wanted to catch up before the convo moved on
▶ No.84439>>84452
>>84435*opposite
> but it doesn't really matter, because the only thing that an unregulated monopoly has to do is make money - their incompetence is not only allowed, but actively encouraged by way of their incentives.If it was the government, it would be the same thing. It often is the government- and the same thing.
>I don't really see where punk rock enters into itIt's a series defined by iconoclasm.
▶ No.84440
in other news, it turns out my "broken" DAC is still usable!! the usb chip went bad and it only would work if it was hot, so I stopped using it for years, but it turns out if I use the optical or coax inputs, it works fine! I bought a $7 S/PDIF cable and now I'm back to having delicious noiseless sound
▶ No.84441>>84443
>>84433>>844341) "You can easily abstract things to make it so the big bad is a concept in a far east religion but oops, that's a little too theological and heady for this game series about perpetual whinging and STYLE"
2) "Henotheism can be considered monotheism or is South Asia not west enough for the east or east enough for the west for COOL JAPAN to enter into the equation?"
▶ No.84443
>>84441I mean I haven't finished 5 but I hear it featured Hinduism pretty prominently… We shall see
▶ No.84444>>84446
oh yeah also fucking avatar tuner, or does that not count because its too spinoff
▶ No.84446>>84448
>>84444It all counts but the way it counts is weighted with the broader series as a whole.
At the end of the day, why is SMT defined by YHVH being the big asshole and (western) chaoskampf religions also being the big asshole and "balancuh…"
Why is Megaten the way it is, why isn't it more, and why does one
homosexual in particular get uppity when I insist that it can and should be something more than it is?
To repeat, "You hate Megaten the same way you hate Homestuck"
YES. YES, I FUCKING DO.
▶ No.84447
megamind
▶ No.84448>>84451
>>84446I think the gaians are typically aligned more with eastern religions, despite the name.
▶ No.84449
"Yeah, no, it shouldn't be more character-heavy and it's fine for the theological shit to just be window-dressing. It's just a series that's about spinning the wheel and rationalizing spinning the wheel on a cosmic level. Don't think, just fight Gods and then consume more product where you fight Gods."
▶ No.84450>>84453
>>84423I think the 90s atlus crew is, sorta.
>>84427SMTIV isn't even particularly chuddy, no more than FREE PALESTINE. Do you stand with oppressed peoples or not, comrade?
▶ No.84451
>>84448It's a mix but the big heads are usually Western (Mesopotamian.)
▶ No.84452>>84455>>84456
>>84439>If it was the government, it would be the same thing.this is the most boring and lazy argument for privatization. that's not true at all, the government is capable of running services that have priorities other than profits.
are you really telling me you can't see the failure of letting a naturally-monopolizing essential service like electricity or internet access be the domain of unregulated companies?
just look at privatized healthcare - a famous failure for the US. we spend more and have worse outcomes than basically any other developed country.
or privatized internet - the US lags behind in internet infrastructure compared to other first world countries - people pay insane markups for shitty service offered to them by an oligopoly that also sucks up government subsidies and sits on their ass for a decade regardless (this is well-reported, the govt wrote a 200 billion dollar grant to build out fiber infrastructure and they did jack shit)
but no, all those other countries that prove it works are uhhh, they're just different okay!! because uhhh…. "they're more homogenous" (black people are fundamentally evil so go back to boot licking)
god I love freedom
▶ No.84453
>>84450>Do you stand with oppressed peoples or not, comrade?The oppressed Shinto truthers of Japan.
▶ No.84454>>84457
>In Shin Megami Tensei IV and Apocalypse, the statue of Mem Aleph is shown to be worshiped by the Gaeans, suggesting that she is the mother goddess that the Gaeans worshiped.
Okay thats a strike against 4 that I am willing to agree with.
▶ No.84455>>84459
>>84452>this is the most boring and lazy argument for privatization.It's not an argument for it. It's an argument that it doesn't matter and I have no horse in this race.
Look at all those words. Shut the fuck up, commie.
▶ No.84456>>84459>>84468
>>84452sure wish we had a hide post button
▶ No.84458>>84460
>>84457Having even the *Gaians* caught up in the Abraham-centricism is pretty stupid, even if its an Ebin Callback to Strange Journey lore
▶ No.84459>>84463
>>84455>It's an argument that it doesn't matter"VGH it just doesn't matter okay… just ignore how deregulation and privatization correlates with everything getting shittier… VGH"
>Look at all those words. Shut the fuck up, commie.sorry for attempting to argue for something I care about
>>84456はいはい嫌われてる
▶ No.84460>>84462
>>84458>Having even the *Gaians* caught up in the Abraham-centricism is pretty stupidWelcome to Megaten. Have you taken off your rose-tinted glasses off completely, yet?
▶ No.84461
Messians (jews with christian outfits) vs Gaians (jews with japanese outfits)
▶ No.84462
>>84460It's one mark against 4 that doesnt apply to the other games. I gave you the inch, don't take the mile.
▶ No.84463>>84464
>>84459>"VGH it just doesn't matter okay… just ignore how deregulation and privatization correlates with everything getting shittier… VGH"I think there are far bigger things correlated with things getting shittier but sure.
>sorry for attempting to argue for something I care aboutYou care about stupid shit.
▶ No.84464
>>84463>You care about stupid shit.are you not literally a victim of the greed of american health insurance companies?
frankly, I think this has a pretty huge impact on people's lives
▶ No.84468
>>84456That's why I elected to throw some chum
