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 No.178[View All]

🜏 Megidochan Monotype Tournament 🜏

Dates

Registration lock ‑ in: July 31, 2025 23:59 EDT
Tournament Held: August 9, 2025: full‑moon showdown 🌕

Type loyalty, 2wag, and cunning upset hopefully win the day, not pure power-creep.

Format

  • Doubles battles on Pokémon Showtime (NatDex Doubles custom format).
  • Monotype teams: every Pokémon shares at least one type.
  • National Dex #001 ‑ #808 only. Meltan (#808) is the final gatekeeper.
  • Regional variants allowed if base species ≤ #808. (Ex. Galarian Mr. Mime:✅; Mr. Rime: ❌)
  • Modern mechanics (Gen 9 movepools, abilities, stats) apply.

Pre‑tourney Declarations

Lock these in before July 31:

  1. Your Type (one of the 18; no switching. Sharing types with another user is fine, but...).
  2. Your Gimmick: choose one: Mega Evolution, Z‑Move, or Terastallization.
  3. Your Restricted Legend/Mythical (optional, 1× from the list below).

Restricted Legendary List (1 slot)

All forms count as the same slot. Darkrai, Primal forms, Mega Rayquaza, and Eternamax are banned.

Mew, Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho‑Oh, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Manaphy, Shaymin, Arceus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Victini, Keldeo, Genesect, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora

Standard Clauses

  • Item Clause: No duplicate held items on a team
  • Species Clause: No duplicate mon on a team
  • Endless Battle Clause: No intentional forever-stall trolling
  • OHKO Clause: No Fissure or Sheer Cold "strats"
  • Evasion Clause: No minimize strats. Sand Veil, etc. ablities are allowed.
  • Sleep Clause is not enforced. Spore to your heart's content, though we may silently judge you.

Scoring

+1 pt per KO
+Win Bonus = 4 × Match‑up Multiplier
+Tier Bonus (see next section)

Match-up Multiplier

An adjustent so that everyone tries their best despite the odds of a matchup. Rewards adversity for poor matchups, and precise play during strong matchups (should maintain a high KO count differential to earn a gap)

STAB Interaction (you vs them)StageMultiplier
Your STAB has No effect+2
Your STAB is Resisted / You take SE+1
Neutral±0×1.00
You Resist enemy / Your STAB is SE‑1
Their STAB has No effect‑2

Stages add together; cap at ±6 before conversion.

Example 1: Ice beats Steel (Major Upset)
 Your STAB resisted (+1) & you’re hit SE (+1) >> stage +2 >> ×2.00
 Win Bonus = 4 × 2.00 = 8 pts.


Example 2: Ground beats Electric (Expected Formality)
 Your STAB Super Effective (-1) & you’re immune (-2) >> stage -3 >> ×0.40
 Win Bonus = 4 × 0.4 = 1 pt (decimal dropped).


Example 3: Ghost beats normal (dual immunity)
 Your STAB is ineffective (+2) & you’re immune (-2) >> stage 0 >> ×1.00
 Win Bonus = 4 × 1 = 4 pts.

Type Tier Bonuses

As we are ever an ally to the underdog, scores per match will get a final adjustment :outy:[tt2]BIZNASTY[/tt2]:outy: on the dominance of a type. Yes, it can go negative. If steel manages to lose to rock without claiming any KOs, they DESERVE to be docked points.

TierTypesBonus
SSteel‑2
AFairy, Water, Dark‑1
BDragon, Flying, Fire, Ground, Electric, Fighting, Ghost, Psychic ±0
CIce, Poison, Grass, Normal, Bug+1
DRock+2

Tournament Flow

  • Swiss / round‑robin stage: everyone battles the set number of rounds.
  • Top 4 by points advance to Semifinals → Finals (Best of 3 for this bracket).
  • Tiebreakers: Sudden‑death rematch (4v4)

How to Enlist

Reply before July 31 with:

Type:        (one of 18)
Gimmick:     Mega | Z-Move | Tera
Legend Slot: (optional, 1× from list)
*Optional Trainer Theme: (just flair)

Locked at 08/01. Prepare your teams and your themes!

195 posts and 34 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

 No.374

Setting this to be pick-4-pokemon format. Battles will be faster and it's gentler to balance disadvantaged matchups.
Looking at the chart though (will finish tomorrow), things are looking pretty balanced type-effectiveness wise

 No.375

>>374
I think it's helpful overall for my team. But I wonder if it makes scarf better or worse…
:notes:

 No.376

>>374
Best 2 out of 3?

 No.377

>>376
Not for the main thing, that'll be roundrobin one match vs everyone with points for wins. It works out so everyone will do 5 games, and if anyone no-shows I can ask gpt to play a sack type like rock


If we decide to do some kind of elimination championship with the top scorers, that can go 2 of 3

 No.378

Rethinking the tactical viability of z-moves in a 4v4 battle
:300iq:

 No.379

The thing is tomorrow night right:options:

 No.380

>>379
Tomorrow at 8pm central, yep
:spirit:

 No.381

>>380
:ok!:

 No.382

>>379
>>380
:guilt::absolve:

 No.383

>>380
I thought it was at 12AM. :uboachan:

 No.384

>>383
The full moon is "over" by then.
I'm trying to be flexible with it, though.

 No.385

File: 1754770163866.png (28.98 KB, 1550x1200, ScoreSheet.png)

Scoresheet as I set things up.

Scoring will remain as in the OP
>>178

1 KO = 1 pt.
Winning a match = 4 pts (with modifiers based on the type chart)

Works out neutral win, KOing all 4 of your opponent's pokemon, is 8 points. If Ghost happens to sweep every game, they'd earn 40 points.


Regarding forfeits. I'm divided, it's usually honorable to forfeit during a checkmate, but here it can be used to deny your opponent some KO points they should have rightfully earned.

 No.386

>>385
I don't think there's a reason to allow forfeits since if you're losing you also have the chance to cull a 'mon for points.

 No.387

>>385
Are we doing every match tonight?

 No.388

>>387
I'd like to, they should only last 8~12 turns unless someone has brought a really stall-y strat

 No.389

>>388
Is everyone even gonna show? :fssh:

 No.390

>>389
That remains to be seen I mean, everyone has checked in the last 24hrs, so here's hoping!


I can have gpt fill in a normal mon team in place of >>212 if we need a sub-in

 No.391

Opening it now. I'll lurk there too…
:onegai:

 No.392

I have not looked into how any of this works at all still oopsies

 No.393

>>392
:7:

It's not exactly intuitive, but it's easiest to build a pokemon/team in text and paste it into the teambuilder

ex.

Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 208 HP / 100 Def / 100 SpA / 100 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Recover
- Trick Room

Same format as that, you can adjust them manually from there

 No.394

>>392
I was feeling a little anxious but maybe now I shouldn't be.

 No.395

>>394
I had puni as the dark horse threat… Maybe?

 No.396

File: 1754783347654.jpeg (189.94 KB, 708x1416, Fr3TVzpXsAIIH62.jpeg)


 No.397

>>396
Pink fur?
:gay:

 No.398

>>395
Maybe if I noticed that it was doubles.

 No.399

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>>398
I thought doubles used 6 Mons…

 No.400

That was quite fun! despite apprehensions, I'm grateful that everyone who applied showed up.
:spirit::thx:
I'll tally the scores now
:study:

 No.401

>>400
>Deadlast
:ree:

 No.402

>>400
Kyogre beat Groudon so that's good enough for me.

 No.403

>>402
>Kyogre beat Groudon
I WONDER WHY. :justgo:

 No.404

>>403
because Kyogre is better and cooler than Groudon

 No.405

Why were there never Ghost and Normal teams? That makes more sense as a gimmick than "ONE BEATS THE OTHER LOL"
:mewse:

 No.406

>>404
NO, IT'S JUST THE TYPE THAT'S STRONG AGAINST THE OTHER TYPE.

 No.407

>>406
Yea, better and cooler.

 No.408

>>407
No. :slap:

 No.409

File: 1754793428621.jpg (507.11 KB, 2048x1561, atomic commission.jpg)

>>408
Yes.

 No.410

>>409
No, SMURF you. :ree:

 No.411

File: 1754793778783.png (16.1 KB, 174x231, fug-3189496251.png)


 No.412

>>411
Where was blacephalon

 No.413

>>412
swapped with chandelure because i didn't want to be accused of metatroidery

 No.414

>>413
I was so scared of encountering a scarfed one

 No.415

File: 1754800361296-0.zip (78.94 KB, MegidoLeague Gym Scrum.zip)

File: 1754800361296-1.psd (4.8 MB, scoresheet filled.psd)

Minor snag, since Earth v. Bug started early I neglected to save it.
… And it matters a little. If earth scored even one KO, they're tied with water
:melo:

If either of the entrants remembers how it exactly went down, kindly share your battle tale or replay.
Alternatively, we could do away with the "good type handicap" on water and award it the 5 extra points. It's not like Urshifu was legal here, so they didn't have autocrit protect piercing power.


.html versions of the matches provided in zip.

 No.416

File: 1754800901113.png (47.9 KB, 1550x1200, scoresheet filled.png)

>>415
Oops, that's a .psd
:boke:


Anyway, ranking for the gym leaders (strongest on down)
8th gym - Ice >>186
7th gym - Electric >>187
6th gym - Ghost >>180
5th gym - Bug >>144221
4th gym - Water >>241
3rd gym - Ground >>179
2nd gym - Normal >>212
1st gym - Rock (Roxkit)

From here, these characters can be retired and the elite four must be ordered, that means another tournament for the top four scores.
Well, I'm still thinking of the rules and potential gimmicks for this next set. My initial idea is no more monotypes, but strict themes per team.

As always, open to suggestions.

 No.417

>>416
I came up with 6 'mons representing characters from a game that I like, but I think it's going to be a weak team. I don't think it will be as competitive compared to the monotype restriction, but I should have fun trying to make the team work if you go with that gimmick.

 No.418

I'd use the gen 6 starters for an rpg party but I also think 2/3 of them suck ass.
I could probably do something around that though.

 No.419

>>416
3rd place ain't bad considering I didn't practice…
although i am disappointed i didn't go full defensive mode with electric, i think that match could've gone differently. I remember wanting to trick choice scarf onto zapdos as it used tailwind but i think i was too paranoid of it flat out attacking with discharge or something. also, i didn't know zekrom was physical… Maybe in another lifetime
:milk:

 No.420

All I want to know if there's another gen cut off

 No.421

What's the Megicensus on the teaser?

 No.422

>>421
The homestuck one? HSG is a block down, but
https://files.catbox.moe/ydh42m.mp4

 No.423

>>416
I THINK I got at least two KOs in the bug round which would put me barely above Benben. :proud:

I'M HOLDING OUT ON THIS SO I'M NOT IN DEAD LAST. SHORTS, PLEASE CONFIRM.
>>419
METATROOOOOOOOOON. :accuse:

 No.424

>>419
Yeah, I was worried about Zekrom getting burned since you had multiple will-o-wisp guys but you didn't use it. Zapdos had Discharge/Heat Wave but I didn't use them

 No.425

>>416
Perfectly average is exactly where Shorts Man belongs. 5th gym also feels right. Same as the dad in RSE.

 No.426

>Trained for decades
>Ripped as SMURF
>Dedicated his entire life to bugs
>Best bug trainer in the world
>Perfectly average
It's like pottery. It rhymes.

 No.427

>>425
Did you check the replay? :demands:

 No.428

>>427
No. Which one is it? Also, later.

 No.429

>>428
>Which one is it?
Ground. I threw rocks at your doods. :picker:

 No.430

>>419
>>424
This is why best-of-3 should be fairer, less "shoot, I should've…"

Full national dex. Even if people are less familiar with the pokemon, it gives more potential matches for themes (like, Gholdengo = Silver Surfer on a Fantastic 4 team, etc)
No more box legend restricteds, they crank the power level up too high for lots of niche stuff. I think the "mythic" 600bst pixies like Mew and Celebi are fine. Same with legendary trios, ultra beasts, the new "paradox" things, etc.


Wondering if I should lock this thread and move to >>>/tso/ to make another



Oh, and old team paste.
https://pokepast.es/5815e11be5086d7d

The throat spray trick is cute but I think the standard choice specs would've saved me a turn in lots of cases… The pros must test these things when they declare something "optimal".

 No.431

>>430
Much higher powerlevel… Aaah!

 No.432

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>>431
The hitler quads…
I was considering shiny alcremie for Nancy, so I at least want gen 8 allowed.
Since I'm not so familiar with the gen 9 pokemon (or planning to use any), I'm fine if it's barred :D:

 No.433

>>430
MEX conspicuously avoiding the crucial fate of the Groudon/Kyogre debate. :think:

 No.434

>>432
Will it be 6v6 or 4v4?
I have a solid idea for a Sekiro team, but it does use 2 gen 9 mons :angel:

 No.435

>>429
Yeah you got Golisopod and Yanmega.

 No.436

>>435
>MoM score flip
:rosechu:

>>433
I think Kyogre would always win, until they gave groudon that gamebreaking primal form in the emerald remake

 No.437

>>434
4v4 doubles again
I think the champion match should be 6v6 though

Tentative date… the 23rd. New moon. Works out to another Saturday night.

 No.438

>>437
The champion match should require a new team >:)

 No.439

>>438
Sounds fair, since I'm planning for the champion to be like a puzzle boss kinda thing
:fun:

 No.440

Another argument for allowing Gen 9 pokémon: I can actually practice the team on the ladder

 No.441

File: 1755012416732.webp (915.75 KB, 1148x1295, actually 5th.webp)

>>435
HE'S SIMPLY THE BEST.
>>436
>>MoM score flip
Redeem Shitcker, sar.
>I think Kyogre would always win
Except I technically made Groudon win over Kyogre.
>until they gave groudon that gamebreaking primal form in the emerald remake
Which I refused to use because I lived by the sovl and died by the sovl.

Wasn't the winner of THIS one supposed to decide the Legendary or have we retconned that to be the winner of the Elite 4 battle?

 No.442

>>430
Same restrictions on Megas, Z Moves, and Tera?

 No.443

>>442
I think it'd be neat if each elite 4 member specialized in one gimmick… That'd mean one person gets dynamax though, lol.
For now, let's keep it discretionary. Same choice of one.

 No.444

>>443
I'm using Tera, then. :chew:

 No.445

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>>444
Yeah, Tera is pretty based. Surprise, defensive use, offensive use…
I'll be using a mega this time, he just screams "Sluggo" to me.

 No.446

>>445
That is literally the only based Tera though.

 No.447

>>443
My gimmick is Trick Room

 No.448

>>447
That's my gimmick…

 No.449

>>447
That's a strategy, you can still pick something else. Mega Mawile, maybe.

>>448
Everyone loves 999!
Speed creep in reverse is funny though.

 No.450

>Dark-type Pokémon are now immune to opposing Pokémon's moves that gain priority due to Prankster, including moves called by moves that call other moves (such as Assist and Nature Power) and excluding moves that are repeated as a result of Prankster-affected Instruct or moves that occur earlier than their usual order due to Prankster-affected After You. Ally Dark-type Pokémon are still affected by the user's status moves.
Holy bloat.

In other news, now that I can play in Doubles OU, it's possible to have fun and practise since not every team is using Calyrex and Follow Me

 No.451

>>450
>>Dark-type Pokémon are now immune to opposing Pokémon's moves that gain priority due to Prankster, including moves called by moves that call other moves (such as Assist and Nature Power) and excluding moves that are repeated as a result of Prankster-affected Instruct or moves that occur earlier than their usual order due to Prankster-affected After You. Ally Dark-type Pokémon are still affected by the user's status moves.
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS

 No.452

>>451
>>450
Okay, Urshifu.
*Moonblasts*
:prankster:

 No.453

File: 1755457283154.png (2.19 MB, 1920x1080, ClipboardImage.png)

>No giant sword knight pokemon
>No wooden puppet pokemon
>No bread pokemon that's legal and also I hate the stupid BARKBEAST anyways
>No ghost wearing clothes, making them look like they're floating on their own
At least there's kind of a UFO…

 No.454

I'd just have to go with one abstract mon per game I guess. Here comes Lunatone……..

 No.455

Well actually there's a million "moon" pokemon aren't there. Hmmm

 No.456

>Lunala
>Cresselia
>Darkrai
>Clefable
>Ursaluna
>Blacky
If it weren't for half the team being den'setu/maborosi SMURFERs… Yet another hidden boss?

 No.457

Wait why is Darkrai banned I need him in my new, not moon team again. :melt:

 No.458

>>457
His darkvoid is a coinflippy move in doubles but other than that I think he's not too broken…

 No.459

Also I need Urshifu :melt::melt::melt:

 No.460

>>457
>>459
Okay, team's pretty much decided but I have two mega evo candidates and it's a hard decision

 No.461

>>460
It's still set up as bring 6 pick 4 so you could run both and choose accordingly

 No.462

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>>453
Palafin >> Captain Rainbow
Salamence >> Devil
Hisuian Samurott >> Takamaru
Eternal Floette >> Lip
Hitmonchan >> Little Mac
Smeargle >> Tao

:nod:

 No.463

I finished my team, it turns out one of my pokemon had a mega evolution and I didn't even know. I assume it's fine to use any mega stone even if it says gen 9 doesn't have it?

 No.464

>>463
Should be fine, I'll test the formats some today

 No.465

File: 1755983934061.png (35.67 KB, 123x965, ClipboardImage.png)

Alright, tourney open
Showtime.megidochan.de

The "alt already in tournament" issue should be resolved now too, I turned off the ip checking showdown takes

Kindly provide image of your team and theme so that the public may judge everyone for faithfulness/metagaming
My theme is the Nancyverse.

 No.466

Deep in Shiren, closed.
This deserves more respect, so we'll schedule it later…
:new::shy:

 No.467

File: 1755994386064.png (10.93 KB, 395x145, ClipboardImage.png)

I made my movelists memes to fit the characters, so please let me have my shit, thanks :)
(Healer on Enamorus isn't a big deal, it's just Contrarian fits the character even less).

 No.468

I do feel a little bad for how EPIC my mon picks are but there's only two I can really swap out at all and they're less fitting.

 No.469

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>>467
Wait, why does it even have healing wtf. It's supposed to be Cute Charm.

 No.470

I was asleep, this is why I probably shouldn't have joined in the first place… If the date/time is made perfectly clear in advance I'll make sure to show up.

 No.471

>>470
>>468
>>467
Yes, I think coming up with a time everyone can agree on would be most fair.

>>467
Ooh, looks like National Dex ubers bans a bunch of extra stuff (SMURFING Lucario is uber)
Good catch, I'll get to making a bespoke banlist with the box legends only

 No.472

>>152256
Sinfest, Penny Arcade, Jerkcity, etc?

Also, SMURF you for moving the thread ぶっちゃけ.

 No.473

>>472
>SMURF you for moving the thread
The gym leader segment is actually completed successfuly. I'll make a new sticky on hsgprime with the E4 ruleset when everything is more nicely alligned


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