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>>56075 No.58037
>>58035He already intends to do the Midnight Crew/Suits one, so an Alice one also with Suits would be the light counterpart and a very MEX thing to do.
No.58038
Slopcast on my dirty notes tuned out shit.
No.58039
decent FRYDAY today. think I'm done ordering cod for now, it's cheaper but the flavor and texture difference compared to more premium fish is pretty obvious
>>57926weird al
>>57994>>57995
how do you intend to reconcile the soft dogboy character with this extra-masc cowboy guy
>>58018I think it looks cool
No.58040
>>58039>weird alStill better than Nirvana.
No.58041
>>58040I bet you use the term "buttrock"
No.58042
>>58039>how do you intend to reconcile the soft dogboy character with this extra-masc cowboy guyYou have to power up with the seven severed testicles of trans girls (Dragon Ball style)
>I think it looks cool>He doesn't know>>58041I do, it's a useful term for a very specific set of garbage.
No.58043
>>58031To answer the question I think you’re trying to ask, the ideal Homestuck would have seen Andrew be completely mentally untouched by his fans, not include any fan assets in the final product, determine the ending ahead of time instead of improvising it, and rethink/redistribute some of the stronger aspects of the comic so it actually does build over time and peak at the end. The fact that Scratch is a better villain than English is a problem. Also, the story needs to be rewritten around a concept that has some reality to it; if the goal of the protagonists is to deal with an unbeatable final boss, there needs to be an actual solution to that and it needs to make actual sense, like how Johnny was able to beat Love Train because Tusk’s power is infinity. You know, take that principle, but apply that to something meaningful. If Andrew couldn’t do that with the English plotline, he shouldn’t have tried to build it up so much.
No.58044
>>58042acting like nirvana is objectively terrible is peak contrarian behavior
>>58042>>He doesn't knowgo ahead, share with the rest of the class
No.58045
>>58044>acting like nirvana is objectively terrible is peak contrarian behaviorAnd yet it's objectively true and morally righteous.
>go ahead, share with the rest of the classEveryone but you knows, you ditz.
No.58046
>>58043Lot of words to not actually answer it. What the fuck did you want out of it? Let's put it like that.
No.58047
>>58045>And yet it's objectively true and morally righteous.I hope you're not MoM because this take is stinky and I wouldn't even say I "love" nirvana
>Everyone but you knows, you ditz.okay, I'll just sit here and be clueless then
No.58048
JFK: Boomer Jesus
Kurt Cobain: Millennial Jesus
Who are the other ones?
No.58050
>>58047>I hope you're not MoM because this take is stinky and I wouldn't even say I "love" nirvanaI'm MoM and I fucking hate grunge. It's sludge metal for girls.
>Nirvana likerNoted.
>okay, I'll just sit here and be clueless thenMy existing profile picture is of the same character from the same guy. It's from my favorite mangaka- Junji Ito.
No.58053
>>58046You know, I think my relationship with Homestuck at this point is less about how I wanted it to be delivered to me and more about how I would have wanted to make it, and the lessons it taught me about how to make stuff, and just how it makes me feel connected to Andrew in general. Homestuck is a very important part of it, but it all kind of coalesces on an event horizon that’s beyond Homestuck, if that makes sense.
No.58054
>>58053>just how it makes me feel connected to Andrew in general.This puts a lot of what you've said into perspective…
No.58055
>>58051He hasn't died tragically yet. It would also be funny for "le flannel smiley face with xs man" to be crammed between a politician and philosopher.
No.58056
>>58055That's zizek, Zyzz was the roided out australian who's heart sploded
No.58057
>>58056Brain broke. Not nearly notable enough.
>Died in a s*unaIt's like poetry, it rhymes.
No.58058
>>58054Do you think I don’t care about Homestuck? Do you think I’m not a worthy disciple of Andrew? I’m so sick of your contrarian bullshit. You know the only reason I haven’t started proving myself yet is because I’m going through an immense amount of horrible, horrible shit in my personal life and I’m not nearly ready to do the things I want to do in life, and that’s because of people like you.
No.58059
>>58058"Just ignore him."
No.58060
>>58058>Do you think I don’t care about Homestuck?What?
>Do you think I’m not a worthy disciple of Andrew?
>You know the only reason I haven’t started proving myself yet is because I’m going through an immense amount of horrible, horrible shit in my personal life and I’m not nearly ready to do the things I want to do in life, and that’s because of people like you.Holy victim complex. Are you my Shadow or someting?
>>58059I'M NOT EVEN DOING ANYTHING.
No.58061
>>58058Disciple of Andrew lmao
No.58063
>>58060*something
TIME FOR THE PUNISHMENT SHOWER, OH NNONONONONONON.
No.58065
>>58061Self declared disciple of Manuri here
No.58066
>>58050you can personally hate grunge without being an obnoxious loser about it :^p
ik you're probably leaning into it for cynical funnies but obviously it's not fair to judge one genre exclusively in the ways it fails to be another genre (by your estimation). e.g. "I hate metal, it's rock for edgy outcasts who still think screaming and dressing goth is cool"
>Noted.I haven't listened to any in quite a while だろ
>My existing profile picture is of the same character from the same guy. It's from my favorite mangaka- Junji Ito.well, forgive me for not being acquainted.
if I was more like you, right now I could insert several snide comments about how I'm sorry I'm not normie enough to know every COOL JAPAN poser's favorite J-HORROR AUTHOR!!! UZUMAKI WOAHHH!!! SO EPIC!!! ← NOT the actual me (･`ω･´)b, just a sample of how intolerable I could be if I reflected your own gatekeepy toxicity back at you ¬ ࡇ¬because it's fryday and I feel extra defensive of what should be a good mood, I'll tack on extra armchair analysis - remember when I misunderstood your joke and thought you didn't recognize arawi keiichi's work, so I told you his name? you started yelling at me for not assuming EVERYONE would recognize it. it makes me feel like you're really touchy and uncompromising about taste/media knowledge, perhaps because you derive part of your self esteem from having what you consider to be good and well-informed taste. but you're turning it around into this toxic posturing that pushes away people just for having a different media journey! you don't need to do that. you have value that goes beyond your particular cultivated taste in this moment <3 now start smiling and hugging more
No.58067
>>58059When I first read Homestuck, I wasn’t sitting there thinking “Wow! This is the thing that’s going to define the rest of my life! And the guy who made it is my god!” I was still a kid with a simple, podunk creative style. I did a Minecraft comic inspired by Machinima-era gamer cartoons and my main influences were Calvin And Hobbes, Shonen Jump and Foxtrot. I did stupid shit that could be hung up on the walls of the classroom of my awful school because that’s what the adults in my life wanted out of me. I looked at Hussnasty Mode and went “Ew! I don’t like this new artist as much. Turn it back.” Even though I drew plenty of ugly, goofy stuff myself, because I was conditioned by normalfags to admire unachievable beauty and Japanese entertainment and shit and I wasn’t ready to accept the importance that that quality of myself represented yet. I wasn’t ready to embrace how deeply I understood it, or all the layers of irony, or all the bizarre, dark, cynical humor, because I was still busy being a cringy tween. I thought that eventually I was going to jettison all this lame comic strip crap, get the real talent, and design super-intricate stick fight animations for a video game. Now, as an adult,I understand that that was always unattainable, and that there was a reality to the simplicity of my old comics, and that it represented the reality of my decision-making. Now I understand that Andrew and I are the exact same breed, and I’m retracing his footsteps meticulously to understand myself as much as I can looking in from the outside. Now I appreciate every ounce of the depth and personality of Homestuck because I know it’s something I could have done all along, and I know that Homestuck is the pinnacle of anything I could achieve in the way of traditional beauty, but I also understand that there’s a deeper, more existential layer to all this. I’m really tired of people shitting on me for feeling these things just because I prioritize conveying my actual feelings over looking smug and intelligent.
No.58068
>>58066> it's not fair to judge one genre exclusively in the ways it fails to be another genreIt fails at everything. It fucking blows.
> if I was more like you, right now I could insert several snide comments about how I'm sorry I'm not normie enough to know every COOL JAPAN poser's favorite J-HORROR AUTHOR!!! UZUMAKI WOAHHH!!! SO EPIC!!!You see, even with you trying to predict things, I'm still two steps ahead. I actually resent quite a bit and was taking a jab at him.
>you have value that goes beyond your particular cultivated taste in this momentA lot of people don't. And that is why I hate them. Everything is tangled in loops. Alt-culture is dominated by poseurs still in the fundamental superstructure of culture. Mass-media, globalized culture is defined by one thing- primarily, interchangeability. Interchangeability between different cultures and between itself and other things; transience, intangibility. You look at one thing and you see how it incorporates all of these subcultural trends and now it's the "big thing" and it's seen as insular because of one element from the lesser homogeneity- leading to the creation of the greater homogeneity. With each day that passes, the cries against corporate boardroom demographics testing becomes more and more hollow. Brilliance only comes from polishing something into the brittle and frail.
>>58067Shut up.
No.58069
>>58067Also, Hussnasty is ugly.
No.58070
>>58068Such a fucking primitive.
No.58072
>>58067>I’m really tired of people shitting on me for feeling these things just because I prioritize conveying my actual feelings over looking smug and intelligent.I say this genuinely, I'm not here to dunk on you and keep posting - the reason people are "shitting on you" (I wouldn't go quite that far) is because they recognize that the way you're describing your relationship with Hu¢¢ie/his work
sounds a little delusional.
statements like this one:
>Now I understand that Andrew and I are the exact same breedwithout more explanation can sound somewhat arrogant, because you're positing yourself as "exactly the same" as someone who is ostensibly a talented and famous webcomic author. that doesn't mean you can't relate to him in certain ways, but it's important to remember that even if you trudge through ALL of his work that you can find, it's not like you "know" Hu¢¢ie like you know yourself.
I don't think you're getting mocked for embracing your genuine feelings of admiration, wonder, inspiration, and influence sprouting from Hu¢¢ie and his works (SOME people will mock you for so sincerely loving something, but I wouldn't, at least). people are mocking you because it sounds like you have become obsessively lost in your admiration of this man (who again, you
don't know beyond the image you've conceptualized from his public work), and are now starting to restructure your life and creative pursuits around that man's life, even in obviously silly ways ("I will use the same OS and drawing software as Hu¢¢ie"). EVEN DOING THIS could be okay if you demonstrated awareness: "yeah, I know, kinda crazy, but I really like the idea of sort of method-acting him, to get inside his creative mindset" ← THIS might be a way to introduce the idea while still sounding kind of normal.
but instead you use words like "disciple" and immediately shout down anyone who points out that, hey, this worship and imitation is a little weird, and maybe not good for you.
just some words to chew on…
No.58073
>>58070Such an obvious ESL autist. I'm so sorry that you really think the best you can achieve is Homestuck. I hope you get over those self-esteem issues some day.
No.58074
>>58067>prioritize conveying my actual feelings over looking smug and intelligentIn some cases, each new morning brings fresh toil to demonstrate either…
Still, if one assumes airs in a space as anonymous and ephemeral as HSG, when does their mask actually come off? Seems wearying.
No.58079
>>58072Okay, but how does this affect you in any way, shape or form that would justify you trying to get me to change what I’m doing? Either you think a few posts about it in a thread on an image board is too much, or you’re trying to get me to give up.
No.58080
>>58077>Literally poisoning the way So clever! "For Gentiles Only! seems a little much when you could just write "non kosher", that might be closer to a semblance of a joke!
No.58081
>>58079Black-and-white thinking isn't good for you.
No.58082
>>58077Such is life under the many tentacled grasp of ZOG…
No.58083
>>58082Random poison wells, the works.
No.58085
Gonna try editing my megidochan
-Witch hat
+Troll horn headband
+Moon hairclip
Beady earthbound eyes stay on. Earthbound aside, it reminds me of Nanc4 too
No.58086
>>58080but then how would gentiles
wwalk past and know "dat means me!
"
No.58087
>>58068>I actually resent quite a bit and was taking a jab at him. wow, so you actually preempted my comment by being a gatekeeping taste cop so casually that I didn't even notice. the idea of someone's favorite mangaka being junji ito is just so laughable and pedestrain that just saying it should be a joke by itself? ¬ ࡇ¬
do you hate the version of yourself that hadn't yet discovered the things you think are good now? do you hate everyone that hasn't discovered those things yet, and who hasn't been in the right circumstances to fall in love with those things and adopt a taste similar enough to yours to be acceptable?
in a decade, will you hate the things you thought were cool now? or have you finished changing taste and decided what you have now is just "objectively good" and everything else outside of it isn't. will you be wearing your current fashion into your elder years, forever in a generationally identifiable outfit while insisting that everyone before you and after you just has no taste, because if they did, they would dress like you?
No.58088
>>58081You’re trying to make me out to be this childish, narcissistic socially unaware autismo that you can pretend to guide away from the edge of ruin with your caring hand - you know that I know how other people in these threads perceive what I’m saying, right? I know how people are going to perceive me proclaiming from the highest mountaintop that I’m “like Andrew Hu¢¢ie” and demonstrating that I want to flex that power. It’s just that I’m too fucking old to care and that I’ve been through this before. Nothing I say or even do besides dropping to my knees and sucking cock is going to make anyone happy, so the least I can do is sincerely defend myself and not apologize when I’m not doing anything wrong, right? Or maybe the least I can do is shut up and not give the comedians here any more ammo against me, because clearly in a lot of ways this general is like fly paper for actual Homestuck devotees to come in, get stuck, and get bullied by the
homosexuals who can’t find any other outlet for their sadism.
No.58090
>>58088I don't even know where to begin with you. This is just sad.
No.58091
>>58090No, mommy…don’t do it again…
No.58092
>>58088>general is like fly paper for actual Homestuck devotees to come in, get stuck, and get bullied by the homosexuals who can’t find any other outlet for their sadismWhat a very Drosera-like descriptor.
But she's a nasty girl, so I am trying to be open to any and all weirdness.
No.58093
>>58087>the idea of someone's favorite mangaka being junji ito is just so laughable and pedestrain that just saying it should be a joke by itself?Yes, because to quote a long-running "inside" "joke", he is "the only horror mangaka to ever live."
>will you be wearing your current fashion into your elder years, forever in a generationally identifiable outfit while insisting that everyone before you and after you just has no taste, because if they did, they would dress like you?I already dress like a (deadbeat) dad so probably. I don't fit into any zeitgeist. I am alone.
I get depressed to the point where I don't enjoy things I usually do. I've come to realize that both my affect and emotions are completely meaningless. So whether it is me or not is irrelevant; that part doesn't make me dread. But let's say yes, I might "grow past" certain things. And I'll probably be "angry" about it.
No.58095
>>58092>But she's a nasty girlA scat
8ITCH, if you will.
No.58097
>>58079I don't want you to give up. you can post about it. a couple posts back you responded with "well I guess we'll just have to see if I can homestuck good", which seemed like a pretty good response and conclusion to me.
I'm just saying that if you come in here saying "I'm the second coming of andrew, and I'm gonna make something great because I downloaded the same software as andrew and I'm gonna use the same pen and tablet, and I'm his disciple", you should also have the self-awareness to laugh it off when people rib you for coming a little crazy or conceited. that's all.
>>58088>It’s just that I’m too fucking old to care and that I’ve been through this before.but… you do care, right? that's why you're defending yourself and throwing out insults, no? it's fine to care. you don't have to suck anyone's cock here. I probably have irreconcilable differences with half the people here (or more!) and I don't cave in. but if you want people to take you seriously (as a follower of Hu¢¢ie and as an artist), generally you just don't go around boasting or talking up your plans until they're actually in motion, because ANYONE can talk about how great their thing is going to be once they make it, just wait!
it's different if you're talking to friends, who are interested in you already and would like to hear your vision. but none of us know you yet
No.58098
>>58096Swinging on me because I remind you of yourself isn’t healthy, either.
No.58099
>>58097>coming acoming off a*
No.58100
One day you'd think all these disaffected Homestuck fans would play some NTR games.
No.58101
>>58098It's certainly a lot more healthy than sucking someone else off because they remind you of them.
I hate Homestuck because it's the kind of garbage I'd make if I "got over myself" in the sense of actually putting shit to paper and releasing it to the retarded masses. It'd be the bare minimum of artistry and I'd be afraid of falling into that trap.
(And I would still be a manchild if I overcame myself just enough to make my "Homestuck", just as Andy Jr. still is.)
>>58100No, die.
No.58102
>>58097I’m not the second coming of Andrew. There’s no second coming of anything. We’re talking about a fucking webcomic. All the glory and veneration you’re attaching to what I’m saying about myself is the same rug his fans d
DIAPd out for him before pulling it late in his career and leaving him a literal noname who can’t even be talked about openly without provoking this retarded anger from everyone who’s even heard of him. I’m not doing this for you.
No.58104
>>58101Everyone born after like 1996 is fated to be a manchild probably
No.58105
>>58104When were you born?
No.58106
>>58093>I am alone.I'm trying to connect to you but you make it exhausting by deploying your spines (gatekeeping) as a defensive reflex (defending your taste which you view as a big part of your worth)
the rest of your post makes me sad and I want to hug you but you just make it so difficult. stop being angry at yourself
<lacking a sticker to convey simultaneous sympathy, frustration, sadness, exhaustion in appropriate balance>
No.58107
>>58105"My true life hasn't started yet."
"I'm waiting to be born."
No.58109
>>58107One of those baby peds, huh?
No.58110
>>58108okay, I'm chronically unhappy and have problems too. but it's easier with friends.
No.58111
>>58110That's the thing. It's harder. There's only so much goodwill you can squander in your life before you brain starts cannibalizing itself.
No.58112
>>58111ughhh are you just telling me to stop talking to you now because I'm "wasting" my kindness or some bullshit like that
come on man, I can tell you're having a rough day. please
No.58113
>>58106><lacking a sticker to convey simultaneous sympathy, frustration, sadness, exhaustion in appropriate balance>Sounds like a Flambery kind of mixture, but I don't think there's a portrait perfect without context
No.58114
>>58112Nothing I can do can make up all the years I've done doing the wrong things and nothing right. Even Hell is not enough so I suppose living will have to do for now.
No.58115
Real one-two punch to make me incredibly depressed.
No.58117
>>58115You STILL have to get in the robot.
No.58119
>>58114>>58115shhhhh
my eyes feel so heavy
No.58121
>>58117I won't.
>>58119Don't be so gay.
No.58123
on the drive back from fryday pickup I was thinking I need one of those eskimo kiss dreams that MoM had. maybe I was wrong, maybe that's why he's so fucked up right now
No.58124
>>58122Redpill me on this theory.
No.58125
>>58123>I was thinking I need one of those eskimo kiss dreams that MoM hadIt wasn't a dream. It was an insomniac fantasy.
No.58126
>>58124TRICKSTER avatar friend avatar.
No.58127
Avatar.
No.58128
>>58123Innocence can be cruel, can't it?
No.58129
>>58128Go take a scat,
8ITCH.
No.58130
>>58123I spent the entirety of my life daydreaming like that.
No.58131
>>58130I think yours are a little more than that…
No.58133
>>58132You should look into cursed mirrors more often.
No.58134
>>58121>Don't be so gay.>>55771>remember your decision to say this next time you wish somebody would hug you but nobody does.>>58125my bad, I got it mixed up. does that mean it was much more intense than a normal dream?
>>58128I don't know
No.58135
>>58131Maybe as of recently, but it wasn't always like that.